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sarahkayongo: they they can undermine you in a way, because you're disposable. You're not that powerful, and you're crossing level. Yeah, exactly.

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Martin Muwaga: But and another thing with these guys who are not raised, though the view way

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Martin Muwaga: life only presents binary choices. So if you're not in the account. you can only be against them.

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Patrick Muinda: So it is. That's how

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Patrick Muinda: you have Friday.

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Patrick Muinda: Do you have friends that secretaries also cause. Once. I have made friends with them at office, and even out of office. I have one of her closest friends is Dan Rotiva. If you're not done, rotivo has tried

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Patrick Muinda: school is Buddha Buddha, and also the the same fellowship.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Hey? So we're joining. So joining those up.

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Martin Muwaga: he took 5. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Martin Muwaga: So. So you don't know her because she she's 1970. You don't have Coach, Patty. I'm not saying make friends with her friends, I'm saying, make friends with everyone around her from the secretaries, everyone so that they can give you information.

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sarahkayongo: And then that one I've done. That's what I have done effectively.

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sarahkayongo: And and they they sneak information to me, and II just marvel II marvel. In fact, I don't know. I don't know. I have understood you, sir. First of all, it starts by being overwhelming. That's the first thing.

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Patrick Muinda: You just can't believe it all. Then, after that you say, Okay, fine. How do I navigate through this. So I begin doing that now. Having chatted, let's say with Dan, you know now, now she she she can't tell that I have information.

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and she finally opened up and said, I even told Dan, ABC, ABC.

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Patrick Muinda: So now Dan calls me and says, Man, what's going on we call her number 8, number 8 on eighth floor.

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Patrick Muinda: Number 8 is very, very cold to me these days. Talk to her, and she's not as receptive.

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Patrick Muinda: So so it is a a game

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Patrick Muinda: 1, 1, 1. 1. One thing that must not be discounted is the fact that we should take this thing to God in prayer cause. The the more we use this effort and energy and and brilliance and tact.

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Patrick Muinda: the more exhausted we get.

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Patrick Muinda: Cause I didn't see her. She she she also is very. She looks frustrated, and

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Patrick Muinda: she just is so walked up by so many things. I think she thinks that I report her directly to the first link.

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Martin Muwaga: and and and the that context to very

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Martin Muwaga: that context is so important for you guys to understand he's in that peculiar situation. And and yet I don't. I'm not even as close to the first lady as she. Well, party perception is real at all.

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Patrick Muinda: Everything, everything, everything she's talking about in meetings I am relaying direct.

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Martin Muwaga: so so that one is like befriending an ask.

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Martin Muwaga: Yes, very difficult. That lady is a very difficult individual context. She's a 1970 model pretty much like you no kids, no husband. She lives

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Martin Muwaga: so that that that you also have to understand. Because, again, this may sound stuff Gen. Z. People can't relate with. But these something like when we get these new bosses, and they introduce themselves. And they say, I have 3 kids. They're all young. This is in their forties. We are like.

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Martin Muwaga: she has a instruction. Everyone rejoins.

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sarahkayongo: I wanted to share a screen.

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sarahkayongo: Janet is 16 13, I think.

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sarahkayongo: The story of hey, guys, she's never mentioned. No one talks about her except that

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sarahkayongo: Genesis? 1613.

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sarahkayongo: So that woman I read different commentary. So basically, it's a story of the slave woman. Abraham's that Abraham's film.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah, Ishmael. And then Sarah gets mad and they throw her out, and she goes with the sign, and they don't know where they're heading.

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Martin Muwaga:  But they really stay. Now, booming. Yeah.

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sarahkayongo: which must have been written by a guy, cause that guy says, you see how I put everything so nicely. The guy says.

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sarahkayongo: the woman who was sexually abused and and used. And

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sarahkayongo: yeah, but can you imagine sexually abuse, and then just left. So anyway. That first, says the Lord who sees me

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sarahkayongo: and God God saw her.

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sarahkayongo: you know he saw her sorrow, and and he provided more. Yeah, her pain and her sorrow.

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sarahkayongo: and he provided water for them in the desert.

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sarahkayongo: and he also promised that her son who will be prosperous, and they will become a great

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sarahkayongo: and and the reason, you know, I watch so many Netflix things when I watch Dubai blink. Dubai, I'm like, Wow, these people.

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sarahkayongo: But you know, it's because God actually also had a promise for them. So.

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sarahkayongo: Isaac, yeah, something else. Isha, Isha Krovin. The Israelites are the covenant ones.

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sarahkayongo: but whether you're coming up or not, but God gave a promise to Abraham, that's all his descendants, all of them.

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sarahkayongo: So so man cries out, and God answers her before she even, and he tells her to look around. And this water, and and they they also got this promise that her children will be prosperous.

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sarahkayongo: So she! And then that other comment, she, aol Roy

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sarahkayongo: in Hebrew, means the word who sees me

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sarahkayongo: said she was like, Oh, my gosh, you you mean God has seen me, and I've seen a message of God. So in in Hebrew they say that, and actually in the entire Old Testament no one has given God a name except her.

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sarahkayongo: she called him the good who sees me. aero.

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sarahkayongo: so don't worry. stick to your custody when you're in the house. When you leave the house, pray for protection.

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Martin Muwaga: God is on your side, and he sees, I mean for everyone. The the Lord sees us and party, what is what? Yeah, what is? How does your immediate boss? Because your immediate boss isn't the PS. The undersecretary?

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Martin Muwaga: How does she right under the Ps.

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Patrick Muinda: the Under Secretary? You should. Did I show you my my appraise? So I thought I oh, sorry I sent you to Durham

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Patrick Muinda: when she had finished appraising. May I shared it with breath before, to know the mind of my boss about me and my work? My boss thinks

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Patrick Muinda: She thinks I am not ordinary at all. I do my work. I don't just do my work. I do it well, and I do it above

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Patrick Muinda: and beyond what it should be.

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Patrick Muinda: An ordinary person. Be wheelbarrow style. Just go exactly where you're supposed to go, but II do, I put in extra, and she recognizes that. And she really loves me. When I walk into her office she's already smiling. She's laughing. She even when she's on phone. No, come in, come in. She really really loves me so much.

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Patrick Muinda: Now, when it comes to me, her and the overall boss number, because I'm I'm at level 3 in the ministry.

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Patrick Muinda: so the other one is CEO. Then comes her, then comes me

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Patrick Muinda: my level. So when we are 3, and we are all in the context of work.

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Patrick Muinda: just just doing enough to protect me.

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Patrick Muinda: the CEO by showing her that she's on my side. so I can understand. She also needs to protect her skin. But when we are together she says, no, you know what what just happened there. Ignore it.

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sarahkayongo: But all of you guys, you you've all been very successful. God has seen us through up to this stage.

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Patrick Muinda: That that is so true.

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Martin Muwaga: Khadi. There's there's one thing I think I don't know about, Sarah, but I'll speak for the men here. I've heard from Khadi. I've had from Patty, and I can relate it with it, too, at the workplace. I've also received feedback from being

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Martin Muwaga: I've I've also gotten it. So could we? Maybe party probably be a little more.

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Patrick Muinda: I know that made it clear.

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Patrick Muinda: My boss made it very clear, and she says we need to strike a balance between good governance

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Patrick Muinda: I got the point loud and clear.

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Patrick Muinda: So she says she's a Christian. She compromises incredibly incredible compromise, and and I'm not using the other negative words. I'm leaving it at compromise.

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Patrick Muinda: She knows how to get her Christianity

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Patrick Muinda: and not balance it out. Her beliefs is what what she has to do.

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sarahkayongo: I just go, you know I just first of all, if it took endless. I want to buy you, get it, and and you know who that do as the workers and the Nan and the talkers. So I don't argue now, because I know everyone's working style. After a while

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sarahkayongo: I don't. I don't argue. I'm agreeable. So all these terms. Yeah, I'm agreeable. I don't. I don't give off any 5 of you know. No, no, no! And I understand the boundaries. I understand their little terminologies.

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sarahkayongo: and I don't try to trigger when it comes to deliverables. No one can beat me on on delivering so.

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sarahkayongo: And then this little girl's journey, you and I over would judge, you know, Georgetown, Owen, or too

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sarahkayongo: extra. What's the word? The terminology? Do you have genesis use exprop pro appropriate. You can work with them on a project, they would take your work and make it theirs.

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sarahkayongo: So you have to be careful with them. Is there a way, approach them because they like to Google everything I tell them, and just give them

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sarahkayongo: things in general terms. Oh, Sarah, can we meet? And you show us how to

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Patrick Muinda: what? Taking on your work and making it yours.

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sarahkayongo: hey? But then they cannot defend it. So that's

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Abimereki Muzaale: and like, so what are you working on? That's it. I'm not just that kind of question. Yeah.

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Abimereki Muzaale: then, 2 months later, calling II didn't attend some conference, and a colleague sends me text message from the conference like someone. I just presented this from another institution.

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Abimereki Muzaale: probable that at the same time this is improbable topic that II

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sarahkayongo: so for us we walk in the office with your acidity. Cut people don't talk, and I was like, hey, there's no small talk, boy, you guys, I guess I know.

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sarahkayongo: Oh, I can help you with that, though. Dump their walk on. You kind of you have to create this boundaries? And no, what's the we have those simple questions, what's the level of level of effort level

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sarahkayongo: If if you're giving me one, my very colleague, senior other fellow technical advisors

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sarahkayongo: they want. They wanted to still out talk with them, and then they go to meetings, guys.

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sarahkayongo: and they will talk more. And they're sharing all my ideas, I, and direct it out. You know what happened now, they discovered. Oh, okay, but we can go with all these trips, some of them. You see me going on like in December. This guy I played him. I told him you want. I can help you with this.

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sarahkayongo: he what he needed me to help him. So I'm like, no, no, no, the only way I can help you is is if we go to the field office together because I cannot write without evidence.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah, yeah, come with me, and then you help me talk to this Kenyan stakeholders.

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sarahkayongo: Then we wrote a good report together. But I was not gonna write for him. And then he steals my ideas.

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Martin Muwaga: II know th, this has really been. If you ask, it has really been help, because this is a topic which up applies. But you know one of the things that leads

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Martin Muwaga: frustration. And you really start feeling you're in a bad place is when you personalize a situation. What's happening to you is not peculiar.

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sarahkayongo: It is something. It's. It's a landscape that we are all having to

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Martin Muwaga: to to navigate, but is one of the things that really helps me.

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Martin Muwaga: Actually, my reaction is a bit different as not giving you the advice that I follow when I know someone is negative and all that. I do not let them know that I know.

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Martin Muwaga: because what happened in the case of party is that when Katy go to land at Rotiva. had had this information, had

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Martin Muwaga: provided this information to Patrick she became even more hostile. She's like this guy now. Must be coming after me full place. So old news about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer that stuff you think, Jay, because

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Abimereki Muzaale: being honest sharing when you're meeting someone for the first time in walk, even me when I met Dory II the first time.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I just yeah. But that may not be very strategic. Yeah. So so giving people all in the information they need is something that I never used to consider.

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Abimereki Muzaale: But when he comes back

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Martin Muwaga: to consider, view his dysfunction.

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Martin Muwaga: which skills that did I acquire. I mean a lamb. your lovedness.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yes. So you know, I got that skill so rich doesn't have much value in America.

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Abimereki Muzaale: But how come? How come that skills. It worked for your dad in the seventies. It ingratiated him so many. I'm unwilling. Iii life for me is not worth living in that position.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah, under. That makes it impossible, completely impossible for me to be like him. I can't.

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Martin Muwaga: And his peers get shocked because Elizabeth Murram came and lived next to us in dar es salaam.

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Martin Muwaga: So we used to go across with bread for dinner, and should be saying stuff, and I'll just tell her. She was shocked. Everything, so I can tell that this is I had very. So. I used to be invited around Christmas time to

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Abimereki Muzaale: you know th, these are no Christians so it doesn't. Christian music does this holiday music. You had to play music

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Abimereki Muzaale: around Christmas time, you know. Ho! Holiday music.

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Martin Muwaga: And I've I've been yesterday.

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Abimereki Muzaale: It's all in reflection is like, Wait a minute. When did the invitation stop? You know every yeah, without fail. But it's only a reflection. I realize I haven't been invited some of those events in over 8 to 10 years. I didn't notice it.

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Abimereki Muzaale: But I now know why. No, I mean I know why, because II could tell the nature of the relationship that was naturally.

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Abimereki Muzaale: The bones. It was a sort of relationship with Mom's and Daddy Yup.

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Martin Muwaga: zoom Liberals, just like Amara. Yeah.

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Abimereki Muzaale: But then tend to realize, oh, this fill up? Yeah, is,

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Abimereki Muzaale: Yeah, yeah, I don't know my place. Yeah. So there's an implied hierarchy. And if you acting as if your equals people actually that look all sweet and nice.

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Martin Muwaga: perception. II you know, Kadika, this is that I indulge, Daddy. But what I told Daddy is that just look at the alternative reaction here when mommy, because I told him he knows that Patty very publicly use mommy, her contribution habit. I said, when mommy gets hers, mommy, daddy is so grateful. She writes each of us individually, she doesn't take it.

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Martin Muwaga: you know, because I was so tempted to give him my contribution, but particularly, quite rightly said, no, let Jody hold on to your contribution. Wait for for for all of us to be ready, but II think we should just

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Patrick Muinda: This is yours. This is from all of us. And mommy, mommy, you're taking care of everything.

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Martin Muwaga: I would rather have the one which is predictable is the American way of saying it where we so that party will remit the fast Monday

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sarahkayongo: with this thing. Of course it is the end of September thing which we are we are talking about right now. Next week, on Monday or Tuesday you should have mine.

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Patrick Muinda: That is 3 days from now.

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Martin Muwaga: So, Pete, I'll I'll send it. I'll send you the funds, and and then we agree

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Patrick Muinda: Guys. Remember II you know you're praying for me about what happened? My salary?

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sarahkayongo: Thank you so much. Thank you. So so I mean, guys, you don't know it. But but p. 2 is 75% haircut.

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Patrick Muinda: Yes, I'm going by that Scripture, the God that sees me and he's going to come through

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Abimereki Muzaale: So it's like from the same departments. Some are medical students met that year out of the Phd students in their past year. Some of Mph. Students who Mp. Students almost do nothing because I know I know what Mph. Is. 9 months.

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Abimereki Muzaale: So I've been exposed to everything in such a compact period. They have no skew, no advance knowledge of anything.

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sarahkayongo: The Biden administration really came out with all sorts of options for us. If you work for a nonprofit, you can actually have your date. Where? But I don't work for nonprofit right now.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah. So I managed to talk to that loan. You know, you get a loan advisor. And she said, Well, I think you qualify for loan reducement.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah. And I need, I need, I continue to need a financial breakthrough. So I can complete all my projects, and, you know, prepare for retirement

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Martin: That is.

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Patrick Muinda: we thank Good so much for what he has done in your life over this one month. Oh, is that it? Almost a month now?

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sarahkayongo: God, yeah, God is everything. Yeah.

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Patrick Muinda: Now for me. Number one. That motivation came.

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Patrick Muinda: done so much work. Yes, it does, is my supervisor.

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Patrick Muinda: So she's given me corrections that I need to implement. So I don't. II now have a clear direction, and I'm very happy

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Patrick Muinda: in the past. I was just

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Patrick Muinda: not clear about what I was doing, and I was feeling really really terrible. But now it's cut out.

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Patrick Muinda: scratch out, and I must emphasize this. This didn't come out strong enough

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Patrick Muinda: here. I was ambiguous here. This is very good, so she gave me feedback.

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Patrick Muinda: They have lunch today. That feedback is mostly negative. And if it's positive, then it is, it's only growing a constant.

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Abimereki Muzaale: It is cancer.

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Patrick Muinda: It is kazaa. Okay?

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. So I think that's being home.

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Patrick Muinda: Then, of course, I'm very thankful to God for the conversation we had.

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Patrick Muinda: You have said a lot of what I already knew. It's just that I did not think that you had gone through it as much as I thought you had, all of you. So for me, that has been such a reinforcement

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Patrick Muinda: tonight. Continue towing. But

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Patrick Muinda: it's not personal. Just just to add context to what Jujus said.

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Patrick Muinda: I'm not the only one who is having this type of thing with her. It's not just me.

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Patrick Muinda: So yeah, it it is other people. So now I'm tempted, II, to to join into conversations that I tell myself. No, this time I'm not saying anything. I like my lessons from the format boss.

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Patrick Muinda: When people come and cry about their frustration about him

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I also share.

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Martin: but before I know it he knows about it. Then I'm in more trouble. Yes, they extract and burn, mess you up in 4 wheel drive. So in this one I don't.

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sarahkayongo: Someone comes and cries their eyes out. Yeah, I just a month.

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Patrick Muinda: I think. Let us trust God to see us through. Let let us let us keep on working hard, and, let's trust, go to give us victory as we do our work and do it excellently. That's what I tell them. I no longer say anything now.

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sarahkayongo: and and by that has helped

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Patrick Muinda: the turbulence in this regime is much less. It's terrible, but it's less than

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Martin: you talk of those millennials. Drop Genesee

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Martin: W. To me the biggest tragedy for them, I think. Well, I don't know whether it's a tragedy. But this

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Martin: body of knowledge which is collectively put together, asking my daughters whether they ever read

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Martin: textbook. Say, look at me. It's a textbook

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Martin: like those text books that have been put together, which systematically explain the topic they're like. No, no, no, it is all these puzzles, as we said, of knowledge, Youtube, just quickly. There's like a same thing. They don't. They? Just Google, someone explain something. And it's really, really. And that's why I was curious when asking the about how many genesis are transitioning into doctor studies because there are no games.

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Martin: There is a system

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Martin: about to change for them.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I can tell you that's the most brilliant person I might

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Patrick Muinda: hmm!

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Abimereki Muzaale: The most brilliant person I've Metro, or is my master's in higher? It was my student is Gen. Z. Roughly.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I should know. It's exactly

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Patrick Muinda: number 3, number 3, that one God is going to do it, and I want to believe that the next time we meet telling you that the

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Patrick Muinda: Public Service Commission has issued my minute, and that Hr. Has fixed the salary and want to believe that that's what it's going to be the next time we meet

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sarahkayongo: setbacks. Yeah.

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Patrick Muinda: then, then, then we also pray for Sarah, I mean for for Dorothy. She's going to do an American visa interview next week, or is it next week?

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1, 20 fourth.

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Patrick Muinda: So please remember, we don't want to lose that money, even if she's not travelling immediately with her mom.

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sarahkayongo: Let her at least have it. If you have your 2 years, you can plan even next year, just get the visa.

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Patrick Muinda: So so we are. Thank. We are thankful to hope that.

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Martin: And I'm going to. We are having a chat with Dodo. You know these? Us. Embassy interviews invariably take no more than 2 min.

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Martin: This case with their determination. Right right away. It's not about land, titles and bank statements and all that. You look them in the eye. Just tell them, hey? I'm here. Abcd.

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Martin: and you out are all

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yeah.

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Martin: that is very true. Who go with Lantitos are kicked out, you know.

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Patrick Muinda:  yeah. I once made a mistake, walked in and introduced myself as coming from Ministry of Education, said Minister of Education.

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Patrick Muinda: Minister of Education.

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Patrick Muinda: She gave me back my passport and said, We'll get back to you, said you. You don't need to. You don't need to to, to, to, to apply again.

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Patrick Muinda: You, you! You! You Ja! Just wait! You'll hear from us. So my friends traveled. I stayed. I eventually got the visa, but after they were returning on when they're planning to return back from the Us.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Why, why is that so, civil servant?

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sarahkayongo: II think maybe I should have started that way, and once you come

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Martin: for its own personal grounds.

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Martin: And it's yes related like 12 national. Yeah, there should have been a diplomatic note attached.

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Patrick Muinda: and yet as going on a private business. So I should not up fronted government.

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Patrick Muinda: I learned that. Yeah, I shouldn't have. I should have just gone in my own right as me.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. So II have learned that. And to be assertive when you're talking to them, you don't sound apologetic.

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Patrick Muinda: So their their number 5. Jay, thank you so much. Then number 6,

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Patrick Muinda: we have gone through the weeks and wanted nothing. That's the same as today.

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Patrick Muinda: The the the issue of number 7. God has done it. My leg continues to only get better. I'm get. I'm completely fine. I'm not even going for physiotherapy anymore.

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Patrick Muinda: I didn't even have to go for anything. I'm just.

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Patrick Muinda: The only thing I pray for is the post nozzle, drip thing that I'm having. I'm swallowing too much. So that once was a bit sold in here.

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sarahkayongo: It's a bit irritating, so I might have to get some.

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Abimereki Muzaale: II don't. I think it's analogic reaction or something where you feel you feel like there's a tap which is not well close, and you have a running nose. It can run backwards, down, down your throat.

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Patrick Muinda: down the throat.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I suppose, NASA driven so same conditions. Directions?

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sarahkayongo: Yes.

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Patrick Muinda: so so. So. I really pray against it. Cause now solving can become painful and UN inconveniencing cause. We are soling all the time the muscle that swallows you can almost feel the must cause I'm solving literally all the time.

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Patrick Muinda: So II really

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Patrick Muinda: pray against that, and hope that this week I should have proper treatment. Get out of it

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Patrick Muinda: then. We, we continue. We thank God for the school fees. Remember, we paid for fees. I tell you, all the fees were cleared. All we have no date.

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Patrick Muinda: Wow! Absolutely.

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Patrick Muinda: All the children are in school. It's just unbelievable over 8 million shillings, I'm telling you

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Patrick Muinda: so. I thank God so so so much! Nicole is going to school, but she has made it clear that she doesn't want to go that school anymore.

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and she wants to go to another school where she can do things with her hands.

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Patrick Muinda: So we're not good.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. Yeah. Yesterday took her out. We had.

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Patrick Muinda: We went out.

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Martin: She dressed up well and went out on a date. It was very powerful.

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Patrick Muinda: I'll send you the photos?

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. So so we talked and she told me

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Patrick Muinda: how she feels. Doesn't think being with those young babies in that class is really adding any value.

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Patrick Muinda: She wants things now.

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Patrick Muinda: yeah, very cool.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. So we pray she she gets engaged that that point that that we we get to know exactly what to do and where to go, and that God provides for us.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. And that one is is

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Patrick Muinda: I mean, the last one is more or less done. I pray that that Ph. D. Of will translate into something really really good.

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and that finally, that that Ph. D.

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Patrick Muinda: Will come.

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Patrick Muinda: that I'll be able to complete it. I had a very great engagement with my supervisor. It was really, really I. She poured herself out from around 8 30 in the morning up to 2 PM.

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Patrick Muinda: What she has just on me, no other student just me alone.

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Patrick Muinda: So by the end of that I felt so, so, so, so so wonderful! I am so clear in my head about where to go. She gave so many examples

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Patrick Muinda: about how other students made it. Those who failed, why they failed, how things should be presented, how things should be as simple as possible.

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Lisa should be able to treat my thesis.

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Patrick Muinda: and at least get some. Yes, yes, once things are not clear, then it causes my Max to be cut off during examination.

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So that is the thing

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Patrick Muinda: that is for me now. And of course my boss issues. I really pray that she gets out of my hair. But Scripture says we rest or not against flesh and blood

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sarahkayongo: efficient. 10 to 18 every day put on the full arm of God, like, you know, the one for describes. He must have been looking at a Roman soldier. Because.

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sarahkayongo: yeah.

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Patrick Muinda: so you can see, the whole context is a context of war. It's a context of non stop warfare. And that's what we are in as Christians. It's warfare. Non stop every day.

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sarahkayongo: By the way, yeah. So they tell us every day.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. So that is me. I just ask that we pray about that bus issue that God intervenes. It's a spiritual issue, however much I try to talk to my boss, it will not work, cause I've tried. I even went to meet her on a Saturday.

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Patrick Muinda: We sat together in a garden. Can you imagine in a garden, when I took her that letter from the first lady

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we spoke. We talk. I thought she understood me.

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Patrick Muinda: I got coming from Wau

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Patrick Muinda: completely. Waste of time, waste of time, if anything, she's now using it against me.

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Patrick Muinda: But you remember that letter you brought me? Well, now, that thing has turned out to be a problem. Now you're likely to be sucked into it. So get ready to answer, I said. Answer, what couriers don't answer.

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Martin: You don't ask.

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Martin: Well, I think what you what you need to to do it. So you you may need to come with an instrument to, to to sue her spirit. You know, David.

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Patrick Muinda: no, just stay away. I don't report to her.

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Patrick Muinda: I don't need that, so I report to my Under Secretary

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Patrick Muinda: if I must respond to something to her through the Under Secretary, who forwards to her.

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Patrick Muinda: Hmm, so I don't need her. I don't need to be with her

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Patrick Muinda: at all. Yeah. So I'm simply going to stay away from her. She's terrible every time I get close to her.

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Patrick Muinda: It is criticism pointing out issues, reminding me of things of the past.

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Patrick Muinda: And you you remember this.

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Patrick Muinda: I've never had that lady sit down with me, and we talk about anything constructive.

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Patrick Muinda: how we are going to improve the education sector, how to strengthen. ICT nothing, nothing. It's criticism, fault finding politics, which is just very toxic

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Abimereki Muzaale: it. ICT, really.

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Patrick Muinda: yeah, yeah, yeah, there's so much to talk about. So I think my my strategy now is, stay away, stay in good. and let God do his thing. He knows what he's doing. He's aware

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Patrick Muinda: he knows me. God knows me. He's aware of what I'm going through.

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Patrick Muinda: I'm not being disrespectful. I'm not being abusive. I'm doing my work. I report for duty and do it. Well.

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Patrick Muinda: so I think what I'll do is simply do my work, trust God

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and and and stay out of space.

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Martin: Only be there. She needs me. but I'll be available.

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Martin: Yeah, be available.

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Martin: It will be wealthy.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah, it will be. No, you'll be okay.

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sarahkayongo: You've been

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sarahkayongo: by Jay.

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Yes.

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Martin: I did have. II didn't have anything to to share, as you record, but mine is really more of

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Martin: Thanksgiving. In September Bria went back to

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Martin: to school for her a levels. She's studying

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Martin: mathematics, economics, and literature.

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sarahkayongo:  Oh, and

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Martin: we. She's really growing into this mature girl who really is is focused in what she what she does. Oh, and sociology for subjects.

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Martin: you and let's pray for Gabby

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Martin: Guppy.

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Martin: Getty seems not to have you know she's gifted. But can you hear me, guys.

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Martin: Yeah, gut, Guti doesn't seem to. I mean.

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Martin: yeah, no. Just saying that. Let's just pray for Gapi to be.

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Martin: you know, to to show more enthusiasm with work. Very gifted girl. But. you know, like bored with stuff, she drifts off in

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sarahkayongo: in the in in in this stuff. And then she self diagnosed herself. She says she has Adhd.

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Abimereki Muzaale: When does she come?

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Martin: Patty pattishes she. Unfortunately she comes back earnest in December. But we that's not a problem. We can set up a call.

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Patrick Muinda: Okay.

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Martin: I can set up that call for you, too. She's she's going to be

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Martin: joining home mom next week in

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in Cyril Leon. So she is not coming for half time here.

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Abimereki Muzaale: She's going online. Okay?

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Martin: No, no, no, with bread. I will join them later.  so

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Martin: So apart from that one, let's pray for for hand, I'll Gabili.

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Martin: I think. Also that group masculine blah blah blah just to to it's it's it's a generational thing. But for her to

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Martin: to, you know.

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Martin: return to her roots, and at least appreciate what is truly authentic and not just.

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Martin: Yeah, she should have some kind of filters through which she sees all this feedback she gets from

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Martin: from from friends and all that. Let's just commit. That is very true.

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Martin: Yeah, going on really? Well, one of the things that I would like you to

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Martin: pray for me.

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Martin: There is thorough knows the category of stuff. I belong to its. They are called foreign service Nationals.

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Martin: and some of the power

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Martin: Samantha Power has recently put in place some new agency initiatives,

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Martin: which focus on empowerment of foreign service, national. And so now

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Martin: a their husband

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Martin: for each of the major departments and bureaus. One of the deputy directors has to be

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Martin: a Ugandan. OAOA national, a foreign service national of the country!

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Martin: So there! There are some positions that are going to be coming up. And one of them, which I'm looking at, his position of deputy program's director.

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Martin: So they'd be a Deputy health Director health Office director, Deputy Economic Growth Director, but the one end of which I am

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Martin: there was a lot of pushback, naturally, from Americans who found it outrageous that you can.

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sarahkayongo: foreign service nationals who in Nairobi, literally the offices, 90% Kenyans?

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Martin: No, but Kenyans at different level. Those ones are so highly skilled. They run the show. They take no nonsense from the zoom.

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sarahkayongo: Their country demands that they should have those top positions.

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Martin: and and and my friend told me when you're going like an American being reassigned to to to Kenya. They they just tell them that. Just stay in your lane. These guys know what they are doing. Your job is not to

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sarahkayongo: what you're doing. It's just, you know, some missions, Kenya. I went to the mission, though. Would you move? Do you merely literally Kenyan.

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sarahkayongo: I was so impressed.

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Martin: People people know what they're doing. So let's pray for that. Breakthrough for the position of deputy programs, director as and when it becomes available.

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Martin: This is not really about me per se. But one thing that really

536
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Martin: I keep committing to prayer is my Dad, really, truly, truly, truly, Daddy.

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Martin: finding peace, you know. Sometimes we have these conversations like Kadi Gay.

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Abimereki Muzaale: II didn't tell you how that conversation about the

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Abimereki Muzaale: yeah.

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Martin: Say that that.

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Martin: Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, I was like that. You are truly, truly, truly blessed. I'm about to turn 50, and I realize

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Martin: you have. You have.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah, your phone is on and off. You don't know

544
01:13:51.630 --> 01:13:55.650
sarahkayongo: you're breaking off.

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Martin: Yeah, II do not know what's happening. II think it has something to do with my network, can you?

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sarahkayongo: Can you still hear me?

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Patrick Muinda: You said he was 45 when he did what?

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Martin: No, he was 58 when he became chair apostle PSC.

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Martin:  58. Us. And that's like you have been so blessed, and you held that position. I've been told him how we're waiting, having lunch with

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Martin: my father-in-law, Ki Kishuka, and the the Kamundos and the Rakasis, and they were like what

551
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Martin: this guy was chairperson for 16 years. They even shifted to Ro Nakura and said, What did this guy do?

552
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Martin: Who, you know? He's not part of the guys who made the sacrifices. He had been there for a long time for 10 years, because he had broken the U Cb. Bank for

553
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Martin: the rib boots.

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Martin: you know. Sounds like that. You've been blessed like this, but has like that changing of the mind. I some. I sometimes find it

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Martin: upsetting. Khadi says that I indulge him.

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Martin: but you started off by saying he needs peace, so he's not peaceful about that, or he's not appreciative. Or let me. You guys know what I'm talking about that the post

557
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sarahkayongo: are complaining.

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Martin: No, not really forget.

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Martin: But party is gratitude an issue of memory, or is it a mindset?

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Martin: Hmm!

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sarahkayongo: We need to be reminded sometimes, and I'm reminded of what it has done for me.

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Patrick Muinda: It it puts me back on track.

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Patrick Muinda: In fact, I become humble and even repent and say, God forgive me for what I've been thinking and say, sometimes you just need to be reminded.

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sarahkayongo: oh, yeah, that's so good, that is so good. But anyway, ask why?

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Martin: You may ask where I brought this up, but

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Martin: but it's upsetting. Yeah.

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Martin: I brought it up because it's upsetting it. It sometimes gets, and we are always going round and round and round and round.

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Martin: Yes.

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Martin: IIII told Kadi that when the dead is went to the village for some time. It was like I got a bit of a breath as like, Oh, you know it can't drain you. You get to have your 4, 5 days.

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sarahkayongo: because I would sit there and moan about this and complain.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah, III see that unfortunately, I see where this is coming from. I told you months ago.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Oh.

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Martin: yeah, so that is not mine peculiar to me. It affects me quite a bit, but I think it's a prayer for all of us.

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Patrick Muinda: Just leave it under you. Yeah.

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Martin: Yeah. And finally, Brenda, let's keep praying for Brenda. You know she's so far away.

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Martin: But at first, the first time I arrived in Sierra Leone. Just the sheer trouble that it's like a whole day's

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Martin: trouble is like, really. What what the hell are you doing? Is this really what life is about that someone goes halfway across the world. But Brenda is enjoying her work. She's coming into her own.

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Martin: This is a much more senior position. She's the chief of nutrition. There

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Martin: we are. We are praying for a breakthrough for how to get.

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Martin: You know Cyril Leone is an unfamiliar duty station, so she can start applying after a Yah!

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Martin: We're not the

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Martin: for another posting. So we are. We will be coming to a yeah in July next year.

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Martin: So from then she can start applying. So let's just keep that at the back of our mind. She really really has a prayer to

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Martin: be able to move to to Nairobi.

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Martin: where she she she really feels she's not been able, and I agree with her being able to be there with the girls

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Martin: as much unengaged, mother. So let's put that request for

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Martin: being closer for me. and when you're in Nairobi. You're in Kampala for all intents and purposes you're 45 min away. Yeah.

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Martin: Kali, that's it from me.

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Patrick Muinda: The hmm.

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Abimereki Muzaale: yeah. A a few us here last time. Yeah. So

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Abimereki Muzaale: yeah, as giving thanks for my summer. There's a very summer, the the last 2 months, 2 and a half months or so where II literally did nothing else.

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Abimereki Muzaale: But it must myself in a while, which is 100% new to me using AI

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Abimereki Muzaale: you know, so that that that is very exciting new tools. And

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Abimereki Muzaale: I want to, I'm I'm going to be using them. I've created a platform that allows me to collaborate

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Abimereki Muzaale: more smoothly with students, colleagues.

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Abimereki Muzaale: peers

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Abimereki Muzaale: and you know, a anyone interacting with me in any capacity

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Abimereki Muzaale: now goes through a system

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Abimereki Muzaale: platform that it created. Yeah. So very excited about that, because it allows me to

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Abimereki Muzaale: to to do much more

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Abimereki Muzaale: than I would do as an individual

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Abimereki Muzaale: I'll be able to do as an individual. So I'm grateful.

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Abimereki Muzaale: And you know, although they detain things as always.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I I recently ordered new shoes.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I'm an exercise, but at least I mean the process.

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Martin: Oh, fixing this had you have these guys see those shoes? Sort of you see the shoes.

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Martin: But but we need to mobilize money and and all the shoes.

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Martin: Bokadiep, bring them! Trust me, you wear these trainers. Your knees will never feel a thing you just bounce on air.

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sarahkayongo: Oh, you mean the

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Abimereki Muzaale: the prices are down that come down the 300 in 2021 this time, which is 1 50. So that's a huge difference. Yeah, I'm going to place an order the moment I can. And you please come with them. Oh, yeah, you just need to clarify, you know the virtual last time. I don't remember if the size was fine, I think the 11 and a half is all

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okay.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Can you confirm and say his advice.

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Martin: But it was 11, and I think for me, I am 12. I just

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Abimereki Muzaale: yeah. 12 is safe for running

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Abimereki Muzaale: women shoes.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Uk.

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sarahkayongo: are you guys different? What you mentioned sounds like mommy size, that kind of size.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I know me. I think even Brenda will need.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Yep. So you. You may not just come in with your rocks.

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Abimereki Muzaale: So yeah. So I began hopefully, my final year, the Phd fourth year

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Abimereki Muzaale: I only Phd. Requirements is the only thing sorry, not Phd requirements, only thesis

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sarahkayongo: is what I'm supposed to be focused on. DC.

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Abimereki Muzaale:  I haven't done anything yet.

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sarahkayongo: So it should be easy. But you know,

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Abimereki Muzaale: I do not have all the data with me paid

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Abimereki Muzaale: surface some data, and I just need to schedule time to access those data and all that stuff. But the main thing I've been doing is my latest hire is laying down some automating set of processes for me that will make this a breeze

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Abimereki Muzaale: laid down. I should move at very high speed. So let's pray that that happens sooner.

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Abimereki Muzaale: and data, and then in the process of

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Abimereki Muzaale: Pi think, prayed about it, but I didn't. I didn't write it down, but he prayed about it. My grants. Yeah.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I need. I did. I need. I need grants. The more grants I have.

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Abimereki Muzaale: The more jay I took about that percent. Yes, that applies everywhere, so I should call it protected time protected from seeing patients so protected from academic. The more money you have, the the more free. I do. Whatever is your beating

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Abimereki Muzaale: so so grunt.

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sarahkayongo: I wanted to submit October, but I've not been able to. So next cycle is February.

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Abimereki Muzaale: and so I pray that putting this together, that's a lot of work.

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Martin: And and I just, I need to. I need to select collaborators and investigators. But, Kadi Khadi, you have because that means you have essentially October, November, and

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Martin: that's pretty much it

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Abimereki Muzaale: so II don't feel anything in my hip since the last.

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01:26:06.550 --> 01:26:20.520
Abimereki Muzaale: yes, symptom

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Abimereki Muzaale: clearing my sinuses but II will consider seeing an ent session

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Abimereki Muzaale: in the next month, or based on

641
01:26:34.200 --> 01:26:41.730
Abimereki Muzaale: how I I'll be doing by then, but I feel much better. I can smell. I couldn't smell. I couldn't smell food.

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Martin: I can see. Well.

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01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:46.329
Abimereki Muzaale: but now I can smell. I can smell the air

644
01:26:46.450 --> 01:26:48.890
Abimereki Muzaale: and breathe better. So.

645
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Abimereki Muzaale: This is the platform that is describing. So this this growth hasn't yet started because I haven't did expose people to it. I've just been building it.

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Abimereki Muzaale: But it's a platform through which people will be interacting with me.

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Patrick Muinda: Yeah. So so, yeah, so, so this is my press. So just give me one

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Abimereki Muzaale: minute to

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01:27:12.190 --> 01:27:12.890
Abimereki Muzaale: oh.

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01:27:13.090 --> 01:27:16.520
Abimereki Muzaale: you know, I mean it just to

651
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Abimereki Muzaale: transfer this cause. There's no freighting to transfer this year. I can copy and paste

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Abimereki Muzaale: a few things here.

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Martin: The Ministry of Education of Australia has formally introduced AI as a core tool that has to be used right from the get-go

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Martin: in instruction. There was a lot of pushback from

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Martin: parents and all that, but II just had the the, the press Conference of the Minister for Education, saying, no. You remember how we were against the calculator being handed to kids.

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sarahkayongo: That's practical. Yes.

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01:28:03.300 --> 01:28:14.710
Abimereki Muzaale: most natural reaction across the world. AI has been in education wilders to to, to to ban it by gradually. Yeah.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Evolving moving away from that. And for me. My, I got exposed to AI through a data science class. So II don't understand when people are regulations and risks cause for me. I've been using it to develop apps.

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Abimereki Muzaale: I'm like, what? So so when you're using Sunday for engineering, you roll your eyes at other people's consignments.

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Abimereki Muzaale: A

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actually

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Martin: that thing data sciences.

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Patrick Muinda: I know. Patty got Chat Gbt. To write Martin a letter convincing him to pursue a career in data science brilliant.

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Martin: He just spoke audio audio. To the mic is delivered that audio very

665
01:29:07.370 --> 01:29:16.569
Martin: converted, but it was a brilliant, brilliant analysis, and us like, now look at this. This is not even funny.

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sarahkayongo: No, I don't.

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Martin: I do for a while. My post, yeah.

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sarahkayongo: And then when she saw it, she's like fantastic. This is good. In fact, your let's put you on the Ukraine.

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sarahkayongo: Well, the Ukraine project.

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sarahkayongo: It was more of a speculation.

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Patrick Muinda: One thing I see

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Patrick Muinda: is that you need to know how to ask the right question.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Yeah. Oh, the media to ask the right question. Detail.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Yeah, yes. Yes.

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Patrick Muinda: Well, once once you're able to ask the right thing in the right intensity and detail. I tell you it will work for you.

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Patrick Muinda: but someone who doesn't know how to do that will find it a very boring tool.

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sarahkayongo: Now, in in research, even, you're talking now like a research at the right research question. Everything.

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sarahkayongo: Yeah.

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Martin: very, very true.

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Abimereki Muzaale: Alright. So

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Abimereki Muzaale: I think I've finished posting here. It's it's going to take about 30 s to load.

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Patrick Muinda: I wanted to understand from you

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01:30:47.650 --> 01:31:01.139
Patrick Muinda: why is ending the Phd. Tougher than starting it, cause II want to finish. But everything seems to be there. There's nothing I don't have.

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Martin: I'm trying to finish, and since slowing down like landing on aircraft is just. Yeah. Landing is harder than take off.

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sarahkayongo: anyway. Now you have to assemble all these things, and you you'll even have to forget where you started.

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sarahkayongo: We? Okay? Oh, yeah, that has changed a lot has changed exactly. It seems like you did it long time ago.

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sarahkayongo: And then here volume of data you have to go through to now. Begin writing.

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sarahkayongo: III don't remember. Sorry you know what I've completed writing.

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Patrick Muinda: I've finished writing. But now putting it all together.

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sarahkayongo: No, no, putting it together in the form that is a real, that is a synthesis. Now

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Martin: you have data points, information of the writing which sections

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Patrick Muinda: I have finished my my chapter. One introduction through Literature Review. I've done methodology. I've written my findings. I'm now in discussion of findings.

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sarahkayongo: You. Okay, yeah, wait. Wait.

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Martin: You did your data analysis already. Yes, I'm done. And the results are so exciting. I'm going to share with you.

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sarahkayongo: I'm through like a a

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Patrick Muinda: Hi, I'm good enough.

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sarahkayongo: I'm I'm through the data analysis, both qualitative and quantitative, using thematic analysis for the qualitative. I use the structure equation.

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sarahkayongo: III don't even.